Comments on: Lesson 87

By: pamela

pamela — Fri, 28 Mar 2008 13:19:05 +0000

thank you al and ej…i appreciate your lillies!

By: EJ

EJ — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 22:39:10 +0000

Hi Pamela,
I think “light” and “love” talk is better looked at metaphoricly anyway, rather than taken literally. But I think all talk should be. In other words, in order to use light talk you have to define it. Personally I find light can be expressed just as well simply as knowledge, rather than some metaphyiscal experience or vision. And love can better be said as acceptance, rather than some emotional pleasure. Knowledge and acceptance are always available and always with us, while metaphysical visions and experiences and emotional states come and go like any other phenomenon.

Ya know, light, like in the old cartoons when somebody has an insite they get a lightbulb over their head? Or even the old angelic painting with halos?

But the cool thing for me, about what you were saying about your experience, was that you saw to include the problem into the lesson, rather than applying the lesson to the problem. To me that’s a key undestanding. On the other hand, without the “crap in your head” would that have happened? So we ending up having to be grateful for our crap!

Once it was explained to me like this – Now that we’ve decided to heal, everything in the universe, which we projected outward in the first place, notices something (The Great Reversal?) is finally happening, and comes joyfully flying towards us, to be foregiven.

By: Al

Al — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 21:36:28 +0000

No one can escape from illusions unless he looks at them,
for not looking is the way they are protected.…We are ready
to look more closely at the ego’s thought system because
together we have the lamp that will dispel it…we must look
first at this to see beyond it, since you have made it real
(T-11.V.1:1,3,5).
The task of the miracle worker thus becomes to deny the
denial of truth (T-12.II.1:5).
Your task is not to seek for love, but merely to seek and
find all of the barriers within yourself that you have built
against it. It is not necessary to seek for what is true, but it is
necessary to seek for what is false (T-16.IV.6:1-2).

By: pamela

pamela — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 20:38:58 +0000

i get that too and i hate all the love and light talk if it is not realized in me. that’s how it was the other day… even though i could see there was no problem, the crap in my head was so loud and i do want to face it directly and not from a hard, war place but a true understanding so healing can take place. sometimes i feel like there is a right and a wrong way to say what i am experiencing in this format, like i will get busted from the course police… and for me i am lucky if it just comes out to get looked at. i thank you for your insight. the course is amazing and so consistant.

By: EJ

EJ — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 15:52:55 +0000

cool pamela!

I’ve found that without intense personal participation, which is imposible without responsibility, the Course can get reduced from miraculous to magic.

For me, this was the trap of all the cool concepts I really liked in the Text. Yet without directly confronting the crap of my mind/experiences there was no healing, and without being mistaken there was no forgiveness, so without a ‘real-time’ application of the lessons there was no shift understanding, just conversation. Just a bloated sense of self, full of the belief that I knew what words like love, light, healing and awakening meant within an unchanged mind.

It was like an addiction. Oh, “The Golden Arch”! Yeah, gimme some of that. And “The Forgotten Song” that’s about ‘me’ too! I know this stuff! Meanwhile I was just full of the ‘hot air’ or my own concepts, all of which served as a verification/justification of ‘me’ – the ego being ‘real’.

In other words, for me at this point it’s like, yeah sure, love is real. And yeah, there is only love. So, big deal. Other than a quick buzz I get from basking in the reflection of my own idea of that, which is like vainly staring at myself in the mirror, how does that help or heal?

By: pamela

pamela — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 14:38:52 +0000

thank you so much! i love the remembering of follow simple direction. i really want to serve and undo and love. all the support is a miracle to me. my friend left two messages for me…love is real she said…love is real.

By: EJ

EJ — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 13:15:19 +0000

Great post Lis
Just saying that something I see/think is not real, to me, is the wrong use of denial.
There’s a difference between designating something as ‘not real’ and recognizing something is meaningless. It’s the difference between wishfull thinking and miracle mindedness.

Discovering the meaningless of what I see/think has meaning, healing.
I think saying that something I already see/think is meaningfull (so meaningfull that I don’t want to see it anymore!) is unreal is a kind of defense, a guilty and fearful reaction to mistake, and an attempt to deny the God given power of my mind.

I think somewhere in ACIM it talks about first we see a forgiven world, then there is the disappearance. If that’s true then bypassing meaninglessness for disappearing seems like trying to escape my own thoughts without forgiving them. Could be that’s what makes them seem so real…